View cart checkout wish list login you have 0 item s in your cart. Zouavemusketrb north american muzzleloader hunting. This procedure to make reliable patching material is. It holds lubricant to ease the passage of the ballpatch down the barrel. Shooting through colerain barrel using spit lube for patch. Oxyokes patch lube will provide the utmost accuracy for patched round balls. My powder is goex pinnacle 3f with the fines sifted out. For hunting ill put bullet lube on the patches beeswaxcriscooil. Two new additions, both patched round ball pelican parts. The lubed patch should be thick enough to hold the ball snugly on top of the powder charge and keep it centered in the bore. I always laugh when some brand fanboy says something ridiculous like, glocks dont malfunction or 1911s dont malfunction. I use a home made lube made from bees wax and olive oil, or moose milk and do not want it contaminating the powder. Knead the bag for a couple of minutes, and all of the patches will fully absorb the lardlube. The old tried and true spit works well for range shooting round balls.
Brands such as hornady, speer and buffalo meet high standards of round ball manufacturing. Ox lube 4tube oxyoke wonder lube plus, 4 ounce tube. I always use powder and then lube cookie then bulletball. Prelubed round ball patches treated with natural lube or wonder lube provide significant bore maintenance, load integrity, and accuracy advantages over dry or spitsoaked patches in muzzleloading rifles. Discussion in blackpowder started by wmgeorge, aug 8, 2019. Well, come on now, the whole idea of shooting the round ball in the first place is so that you can be proud of the work you did there, if you happen to be shooting a round ball shooter. Because it is such a tight fit, i run a wet patch and a dry patch after every shot. Lube spgtins spg bullet lubricant, one small patch tin, 178 by 58 deep, for black powder patches. A round ball doesnt touch the rifling itself, the patch does. After the first shot, there is no need to use any other patch lube the rest of the day other than spit, because before the day is out you are going to have to unload and thoroughly clean the gun anyway. Round ball patch lube i just located this forum and decided to toss out this question. Lubrication for black powder guns business and bullets.
While this is not strictly nssa style shooting question, i thought i would ask this question. Another use for it is to actually have it contain lube with the ball. Lube also helps to keep the patches from tearing when the ball is started in a tight muzzle and to make ramming easier. Like alk8944, i too use a wad bore buttons between the ball patch, and powder to protect the powder from the lube. I want that very stiff, make round balls of the stuff, which i ram into place, to form blanks. Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads and. Patched round ball gun and game the friendliest gun. I use something like 3 or 4 parts beeswax, one part lard. A good patch is made of good quality, dense natural material. Youll find your gun will be a lot more accurate with patched ball with a 1 in 66 to 1 in 70 twist barrel.
How to use lube on a patch and a roundball the high road. Small leather ballshot bag hand stitched hermithomesteadcraft. Knead the bag for a couple of minutes, and all of the patches will fully absorb the lard lube. Like alk8944, i too use a wad bore buttons between the ballpatch, and powder to protect the powder from the lube. Last week, we discussed several aspects of obtaining optimum muzzleloading rifle accuracy when shooting patched roundballs.
A patched round ball give very poor accuracy as when the patched round ball hit the forcing cone the beginning of the barrel the patch can be ripped off the ball and now you have a ball too small for the bore. Just thought that there must be a lot of round ball shooters on this forum as well. When loading a patched ball, position the sprue up and centered. Now im not sure if the patch gets spun off the ball or if patch and ball just skims the rifling but either way a round ball wont shoot for squat out of a fast twist barrel unless you cut the powder down to an absolute minimum which makes it impractical for most purposes. Use in conjunction with traditions lubed patches or with traditions shooting patches dry and apply traditions ez lube. I turned 67 years old last month, so to go out and shoot one of the best opensighted 100yard patched round ball groups i have ever shot more than assured me that the. When checking for the patch thickness i felt best suited for shooting this rifledmusket with a patched round ball, i chose to load what was widely considered as the standard service powder charge for most. When you take away the unbelievable mass of emotion people attach to firearms, youll see that theyre simply machines. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. Developed as a bullet lube for patched round balls, it also serves other purposes.
Consistency is very important with patched round balls. You will likely need different lubes for the round ball vs minnie ball. A huge white cloud of smoke hung low in the crisp morning air. The patching material is the key to be accurate with a round ball load. I just located this forum and decided to toss out this question. Some good advice has been given on using period type lube in this thread, give it a try. Patched roundballs in a revolver how to quick tips youtube. Lubespgtinl spg bullet lubricant, one large patch tin, 238 by 34 deep, for black powder patches.
We demonstrate how forgetting to bring your correct sized round balls for your cap and ball pistol need not mean you cant shoot. I usually start with the same ball diameter, patch material, patch lube, powder load, percussion cap and amount of powder compression and vary things as necessary while getting the best accuracy. Just wondering what the favorite receipes for patch lube are. Handmade muzzleloader round ball loading block ebay. Home made patch lube for bp shooting yahoo answers. Traditions muzzleloader revolver round ball bulk pack is perfectly sized for superior accuracy and performance. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity. It acts as a rudimentary gasket to seal the bore and maintain pressure from the rapidly. I ordered two different lubricants to be used on patches.
Problem is, lube wont stay in the shallow lube grooves on a real bullet. Black powder bullet lube muzzleloader patched round ball. These 100% cotton patches are available nonlubricated for use with your favorite patch lubricant, or prelubricated with thompson center natural lube. My particular rifle is sensitive to the patch lube used, but not to the extent you are talking about.
Oct 05, 2009 the distance my club shoots were at with. I have taken deer with both but never studied the numbers on these. Also, when fired, the tin foil acts like a scraper in the bore and takes a lot of fouling out with it. Jake and i discuss ball diameter, patch thickness and patch lube. Traditions muzzleloader revolver round ball bulk pack. Mar 15, 2010 another use for it is to actually have it contain lube with the ball. Many years ago, in a brigade of the american revolution live fire match, i was able to load and fire 25 very accurate rounds without ever having to wipe the bore by using. My question is how do i apply this lube on the patch itself, which. Lubrication for black powder guns is an entirely different story. I am feeling really good after 9 days of hunting in southern colorado. View profile view forum posts private message boolit master join date may 2005 location. Apr 30, 2008 how to load a round ball into a muzzleloader. Jul 06, 2017 its simple enough to grease the long bearing surfaces and oil the pivot points on a smokeless cartridge gun. You can buy good quality patches in your local blackpowder shop, but you can also make your own.
Lubricants for patched round balls lubricants for patched round balls. Single shot pistol and rifle shooters are using wonder wads to improve accuracy. The patch round ball challenge long range hunting forum. I may have changed patching material, but not sure.
Formulated specifically to aid in easy loading of patched round balls in muzzleloading firearms, beaver grease patch lube is heavy enough to provide. Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads. The alternative is to swab the bore after each shot or several shots which some folks do anyway to maintain best accuracy. After years of testing we have found a combination which is worthy of the oxyoke. I put 100 dry patches in a zip sandwich bag and pour about 12 fluid oz of melted, 100% hog lard in the bag with the patches. I bought a lee real bullet mold and cast some bullets for it, thinking accuracy would improve it didnt. I use pillow ticking and cut at the muzzle on my rifles. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. I use it to lubricate my patches for patched round balls, certain projectiles that dont use a patch if. That ball isnt made for big game all the typical brain washed fubar where some think you need plastic, ss, scoped and high priced pretty shaped bullets in order to down game. Youll find your gun will be a lot more accurate with. Ff powder, pillow ticking patch bore butter, from a deer. Thin patches and big balls usually are more accurate than the opposite combination, but patch burnthrough is a problem, so the patch on the powder protects the patch on the ball.
Black powder patched round ball lube handmade medium. Ox lube 12 oxyoke wonder lube plus, 12 ounce bottle. If this is inappropriate for this forum, my apologies, and please remove. I switched to lehigh valley patch lube, which works well in the cold, but to me it did not seem like it had any real lubricating properties, since the patched ball loaded very roughly, even in a clean bore. Pretty much the standard in black powder firearms lubrication. But if using an adequate amount of lube then swabbing can be delayed for many shots if desired. I have heard of shooters using all kinds of stuff for patch lube when shooting round ball in their muzzleloaders. I am going to start using a patched round ball in my. For shooting at the range i like either spit or ballistolwater mix. Pour the measured powder charge down the barrel and load a patched round ball directly on top of the powder charge omitting all the cards and wads. The patch and lube a re very important components in getting the most out of your rifle. What is the best lubricant recipe for the minie ball for live. I have tried a lot of combinations and this is what works.
Oct 29, 2014 i am going to start using a patched round ball in my. Etsy your place to buy and sell all things handmade. I condition leather with it when making pouches and knife sheaths, lightly rub it on the outside of my rifle for protection after wiping all the grime and fingerprints off after a day in the field, and have even used it on dry skin patches. I find a little better groups when i use the buttons. Hang it from your neck or the strap on your possibles or shooting bag and you are ready to go with those quick followup shots when needed. We touched on such subjects as rate of twist, patch thickness, patch lube and size of roundball. Ok, i bought some pillow ticking at walmart to use as a patch. Bear grease is an all natural patch lube designed especially for the rigors of cold weather hunting. What is the best lubricant recipe for the minie ball for. To use this device, just put your prelubed patched round balls into the holes and that is it. When i went to load the rifle i found the patched bullet to be an extremely tight fit.
It was to the point that the bullet starter left an impression on the ball. Those lubed wadspatch are to prevent chain fire, where the flame from the cylinder fired ignites the others. Nov 05, 2010 some good advice has been given on using period type lube in this thread, give it a try. Aug 04, 2014 the patching material is the key to be accurate with a round ball load.
Wonder wads are used over the powder and under the patched round ball or conical bullet. But now i am noticing patch material sometimes show complete burn through. The local walmart and the local gun shop both carry. Lubespgtinl spg bullet lubricant, one large patch tin, 238 by 34 deep, for black. They safely seal each chamber and help prevent a chance of chainfires. Have a hawken style rifle that i want to use a patched round ball in.
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